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This is history,
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And this is the future!
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We're going to build a new drift car,
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This is a 2011 C-Classe Coupe Merc.
We brought it into the country with some slight damage.
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There’s no frame damage, so it is a perfect candidate for us.
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Since arriving it’s got a 6.3 AMG Black Series bodykit,
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We had a custom rollcage made for the car.
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There is a Polish made control arm kit already installed as well,
With custom knuckles and KW coilovers.
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So pretty much that's it so far.
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The engine we’re putting in this is going to be a lot smaller, than what we have in the C600.
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At the end of this video we are going to check the history of this car on carVertical,
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In case you don’t know the C600,
It has a 6.0L V12 engine from the W140 S-Class.
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Paired with a truck turbo behind driver’s seat,
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The boost pipes are routed to the front via an air to water charge cooler.
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We’re running it very safely with 0.5 bar (7.25 psi) of boost,
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And it’s still making 650 hp and more than 900 Nm (665 ft lb) of torque.
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We’ve been using this car for many years, we started building it in 2012.
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For a very long time we kept the setup naturally aspirated.
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Mostly built for Gymkhana and similar kind of racing back then.
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But then drifting became way more advanced in technology later on,
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We tried following the trend by making it turbocharged,
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But now we need way more refined technology for it.
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And this brutally heavy V12 engine simply doesn't fit into this environment.
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Its mass center is concentrated into such a small space and it makes the car so heavy,
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We have to move on!
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So let's drive a couple fairwell laps with the C600, here, around the yard!
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We got visited by Tomi Magyar, my Markom Racing teammate,
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For a bit of a testing with his new car.
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This is again a 190 Mercedes,
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But it's not running diesel anymore, it is petrol.
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Hey everyone,
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M104 Mercedes engine, 3200 cc.
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Everything is stock inside the motor, pretty much,
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Except for the rods.
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It got 6 new connecting rods,
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And also a new head gasket, an Athena head gasket.
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The car at the moment makes 650 hp to the wheels,
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And 740 Nm (545 lb ft).
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So this 6 cylinder engine is currently making the same power as the V12 turbo.
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Obviously it is being put under a lot more stress,
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But it's still mind blowing that it's capable of this at all.
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And let's say it weighs half of the other one.
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Of the V12? Yes, around that.
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The shorter rods were only installed to decrease compression,
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And not because the stock ones would break or anything, right?
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In theory, the stock ones can take up to 400-500 hp,
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However we decreased compression quite significantly with them,
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So we can put lots of boost in it.
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If I'm correct, you're currently running 0.6 bar on yours.
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0.5, this is running 1.4.
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There isn't much runtime in your car yet,
It's only been completed quite recently.
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That is correct!
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But you drove it on AMTS and a competition before that.
That's true.
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And soon will come the Lóerők Éjszakája ("Horsepower Night") where you will race it properly for the first time.
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That is correct!
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Compared to the diesel, how much better do you feel this new one is?
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The two are night and day!
Everybody kept saying how torquey the diesel was,
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But this is not true at all, it is silly.
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Most of the times a turbo diesel is getting compared to a naturally aspirated petrol engine,
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And in that case the diesel obviously has more torque because of the turbocharger.
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But as soon as we started tuning the diesel,
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We weren't any better than a petrol build:
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Very large turbocharger, came on boost really,
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Under 3400RPM the diesel pretty much didn't do anything,
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And there was no ALS (anti-lag)!
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So I couldn't use ALS,
With the new one there is ALS!
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In addition, the turbo spools a good 1000-1400 RPM earlier in the rev range,
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Now we have 400 Nm from 2000-2200 RPM,
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That is very early!
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Compared to the diesel this feels like and electric car to me.
This one is has much more torque!
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And you still plan to improve on the turbo, it will be even better.
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Exactly, right,
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I left that to be a winter project.
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By the way this is a cheap turbo,
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This is an entry level BorgWarner turbocharger
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Possibly the cheapest BorgWarner you can buy,
I think there are only better models than this.
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That will make things even better for sure.
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It already does well!
And currently you're running a diesel gearbox out of a CDI?
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6 speed CDI gearbox, yes.
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And you're going to install a Samsonas sequential gearbox?
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That's our plan.
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And then the car is pretty much done...
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There's lots to develop on the suspension, it is still in the development phase,
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I have some problems with the steering angle,
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We recently changed a few things about that too.
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We'll see how it works at Lóerők Éjszakája ("Horsepower Night").
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So the plan is to put a setup into this W204 Coupe, that is very similar to this,
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This is basically the 2JZ of Mercedes,
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The whole layout is pretty much the same. And...
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This one's better!
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You're saying it's better?
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Everyone seeing this, and I'm speaking without any Mercedes fanboyism, even though I am biased towards Mercedes,
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Just a little bit...
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But aside from that, everybody who has seen it,
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Starting with the machinist from the machine shop, anybody else,
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This is a really strong design in terms of materials.
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But obviously the 2JZ has become much more popular in the US,
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I think... Let's just say, this is just as good as a JZ.
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There isn't as much experience with this as with the JZ,
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You can't just order everything from stock,
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I want this, I want that and they get delivered the next day, you just screw them in and you're done.
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Yeah, that's right, the 2JZ has a much bigger variety of aftermarket parts at the moment,
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You can order anything from anywhere,
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Some things are there for this one too, but I'm one of the very first people in Europe dealing with this.
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Tell me more about how you installed that engine in here.
Did it just slide in here or you had to modify things to make it fit?
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We have custom fabricated engine and gearbox mounts,
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To make the engine sit 15-20 cm (6-8 in) further back from its original position in the chassis.
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Because of this we had to use a CDI diesel's oil pan,
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It is the oil pan and oil pump together from a 3.2 CDI engine,
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It's a straight bolt on.
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And the CDI oil pump is an upgrade for you?
Yes, it is.
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Looking at numbers, the factory oil pump of this engine, when cold,
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We had about 3-3.5 bar of oil pressure in idle,
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It went down to 1.5 when hot,
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This new one never goes below 2 and when cold the oil pressure is 5.5 bar.
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So this is much better pump, it also has 3 pickups, which is better regarding sloshing as well.
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The old, original M104 pump has a simple, single pickup tube,
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So this is a much better pump. People buy similar aftermarket ones as upgrades.
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So far it works perfect for us.
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Good little Mercedes!
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This is the weekend of Lóerők Éjszakája ("Horsepower Night"),
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Tomi is really looking forward to it with the car,
So he'd rather not trash the car around here too much.
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So we didn't drive for too long, but he will bring the diesel the next time he comes,
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Which is in a destructable state to him,
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The C-Classe has always been like that for me!
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We will push them a bit more then,
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Because we changed a lot of things around this track in the last 6 months,
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You can see when comparing to the old videos, how much bigger it got.
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I would have never thought that it would once make sense to go around here with drift cars,
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So there are lots of possibilities here still.
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We have to cut steel rods poking out of the concrete, because this whole thing is a mess,
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But I'm waiting you to come back with the diesel as well.
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We'll drive from wall to wall.
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Let's do it!
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Wish you luck for Lóerők Éjszakája ("Horsepower Night").
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You can follow the build of the new drift car on the channel, it's not only for channel members!
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The plan would be to make it test drivable by the end of the year,
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And for me to be able to race the whole season next year.
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In the meantime we have a lot of other projects planned,
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One of them is the Cultus, which is going to get a low compression turbocharged engine,
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And we're building it into a track car.
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But there will be many other things as well, so please consider subscribing!
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One of the channel's supporters is carVertical,
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So let's check out, what they know about this exact car right here.
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We imported this car into the country two years ago.
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Right at the beginning of 2020, still before covid hit in.
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Because of this the whole project slowed down a little and we couldn't move on with it.
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What we know for sure is that this vehicle has been damaged,
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This is a C180 by the way,
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Originally equipped with a small, 4 cylinder turbocharged engine,
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It wasn't a really well equipped car, didn't have very high mileage.
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It had around 83,000 when we bought it, the page shows it right here,
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It also writes about an accident that took place in 2012,
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With a 1,500-3,000€ repair cost,
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Price, the vehicle has previously been offered for sale, January 2020,
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5,250€ and then in February 2020, for 4,950€.
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It really happened like this, because I even waited with the purchase,
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And then they lowered the price and that's when we bought it.
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Here it lists the extras,
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And finally photos!
Uploaded in January 2020.
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There were quite a lot of photos taken from the car,
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And in the meantime I'll show you some footage of the car when we brought it here.
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It basically looks the same.
They have quite a lot of information about this particular car.
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Here we have found everything necessary.
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And by the way this was car in a salveagable condition,
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From not a lot of money compared to the purchase price,
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We could have put this car back on the road,
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To end up with a low mileage nice little car.
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If you checked this car, you could have seen what damage it was repaired from.
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Becoming channel members is a good option,
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There, we upload every video of ours without advertisements, weeks earlier than they go public.
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Thanks for joining me, next week we're coming with the Cultus.
See you until then!
