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Today I will go to my father's house once. Father's home! It's nearby.
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Yes she stays but mostly she travels in and out from her hometown, Jaydev.
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Yes, i will go to my father's place today
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You all come with me now to see his house. Okay!
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It's very beautiful, like a monastry, surrounded by lot of trees.
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There is a temple of lord Shiva.
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I will go by bike
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i will go by scooty
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there is no space no.
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truely speaking, it used to be good then as well.
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when we were kids there weren't many houses in our village, unlike now.
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in was born here in this house
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There is a school in the village. We used spent running, playing around since early in the morning.
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We would definetly wake up early and would never leave our room untidey till late.
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Although it's different now, since we come home very late due to our late night programmes at various places.
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hence we wake up late in the morning.
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But the kids here wake up early. Everyone else here, goes for walk or plays around.
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We used to be like that too. What usually happens in villages. Kids in villages wake up very early in the morning
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and at night, sleeps in time.
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kids in villages are different.
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Unlike city kids they don't watch much television. Everybody sleeps early and wakes up early.
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Most of the people here are tribal. They are very good people.
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They wake up at 4 in the morning. Wakes up, cook food for themselves and go to work
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After they leave, village becomes almost empty. But they all wake up very early in the morning and get their pets out in the open.
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After waking up at 4 in the morning, they all go for farming in nearby villages.
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only I wake up late in the morning. 5, 5:30, 6 in the morning
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I wake up really late in the morning unlike everybody else.
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Yes I will tell you about my father. My father recently demised.
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Earlier he used to play flute very well. He used to wake three in the morning and played flute.
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Me and my brother would also wake up. He played it very well
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he used to sing as well.
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Our father had taught us to wake up early in the morning. That's why we learned to wake up early
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I don't know why?
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When we sing early in the morning , our rest of the day goes really well.
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we feel really good all day. That's why we sing in the morning.
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we baul singers, me and khepa first wake up in the morning, and go for morning walk near prantik station. We walk around 1.5 -2 kms.
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After we come back we drink hot water or tea, freshen up and then start singing.
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since it's too cold now a days, we are not going because it strains our throat. Otherwise we go everyday for morning walk.
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I got scared listening to a weird tale.(2)
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A person comes from the infinity and then again disappears into the infinity (2)
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I got scared listening to a weird tale.(2)
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I saw someone walking on three legs near a pond
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and the other one walks on six legs.
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we are going to meet again someday, as said by Madan Fakir. I got scared listening to the tale
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after listening to the weird tale, I got scared.
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can you play c sharp. the song didn't tune well.
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is this c sharp.
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I got scared listening to the weird song (2)
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Human comes from the infinity and again disappears into the infinity.
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Listening to the weird story I felt scared
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And I saw someone near the pond walking on six legs
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I saw someone near the pond walking on six legs
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Someday, somewhere we will meet again as said by Madan Fakir. I got scared listening to the weird tale.(2)
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Hearing the weird tale, I got scared
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it's still not upto the tune.
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My father used to sing this song a lot.
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we don't know the origin of the person, that they take birth and where do they go. There is no address or direction of it.
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they originate from the infinity and disappears into the infinity again.
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My mother, she does not sing. My mother does home chorses. She is a homemaker.
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But she has always supported us a lot. My mother is a real baul singer.
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if it wasn't her we could have never sang baul music. We could have never made it to this world without her
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It is all because of my mother, because she always lifted us up
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When my kids were small, I used to leave them with my mother to do stage performances at various places.
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They used to stay with my mother.
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My mother brought up Purna and Pratima, my daughter Pratima
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Pratima and Purna were both raised by my mother.
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Both of my kids don't call my mother, grandmother. They call her 'Maa'
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My mother supports us a lot.
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my mother is devotee of lord Shiva. She worships him a lot. I collect flowers for her.
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I worship guru but cannot worship everyday. I sing everyday
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I sing all day, while cooking, eating. Sometimes I write songs and compose few of them as well.
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I do these things all day.
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I love plants. But this year we were busy with father's treatment in hospital
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Earlier my house was filled with plants and flowers. I love flowers a lot but this year there aren't many
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There are only a few. We bought it from plant nursery
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we grow the the saplings at home all by ourselves. There were lot of flowers.
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This year there are no flowers in my house. Everything dried up.
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My father used to do it all. My father used to love plants a lot
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There are lot of flowers at my father's place. During this time around my father used to bring me flower saplings from nursery
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My father bought me good saplings and also planted them for me.
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Last few days which I spent in Delhi were really good.
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But before that I was really very sad.
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I lost my father very recently. So none of us went anywhere. We all were at home.
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There is a huge void now.
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Music is ofcourse there. But my father used to call me Queen.
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In the morning the first thing he used to do was to call me
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when there was no phone, he used to come to meet me.
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Since time he had phone, he used to wait for me, so that we could have morning tea together and then I used to come back.
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I will show you my father.
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How should I explain you this relationship of father and daughter. It's very different.
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My Father was a very fun loving person. He used to love people a lot.
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He used to love enjoying his life. He would always stay cheerful and happy all day.
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I always laugh and joke around, just like my father. He used to always stay cheerful.
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What should I say. It aches my heart. This was a huge shock for us.
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But there is nothing we can do about this.
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It's not even two months.
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My eyes started tearing up.
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we were all very happy. It is going to take sometime to get over this.
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Since it's very painful.
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Can you give me some more tea.
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I'm taking sometime to recover. But since music is practised here all day, so its fine.
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Now I understand why, when some other person looses some near ones, they can't handle it.
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We can still deal with it, since we are indulged in singing all day.
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we are all living good because of music. Still.
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yes I did. I did shows with him.
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No, not France. I didn't go France with my father.
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I went Kerala with him, not France.
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My father went France, Spain, Netherland, Germany
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Switzerland.
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He went many years back. When I was around 8 or 9 year old, he went during that time.
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He used to play flute at that time, very well
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yes!
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My father. How did you come to know about it.? did i tell you?
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My husband used to stay with Purna Das baul. He is one of us. My husband stayed with him for 10 years.
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He( her husband) didn't went there for music. Rather, he went there for some work at his home.
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But he learnt music while working in their home.
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My husband's house is in Chandi Das Rajakini. He used to stay there.
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He(husband) loved music a lot.
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So someone said to him,"what you would do here, so let me take you someone's place for work where everyone sings"
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(The other person said to her husband)" Life in village is tough, so let me take you Kolkata for work.
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My husband asked where? He said at house of Purna Das.
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The he agreed at once, and said" i will definetly go". "I will be able to learn music"
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After he( her husband) stayed with Purna Das, in his house for 10 years.
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For 10 years he worked as servant there.
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By the time he left that place, he had already learnt music
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He would work there, and learned music at night.
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After that, due to some reason, he came back to Shantiniketan
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He was roaming around in Shantiniketan just like that, with a Do tara.
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Then he met my father.
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Once my father brought him to our house.
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My father said "he is a nice guy, stays in a nearby village.
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Then our families proceeded with the process of mariage
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At first, I used to call him uncle.
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Kaka!( uncle)
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Since my father brought him home, I thought he must be his friend and that's why my uncle.
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I used to call him Uncle.
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He used to do lot of stage performances with my father, and would go everywhere with him.
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My father liked him, as he wasn't into any sort of addictions
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No drinking, no smoking, nothing at all.
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So my father said," he is a nice guy. So let us get you married to him."
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But I said no. That won't happen ever. I won't marry him
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But my father said," you have to marry him".
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Due to this reason I had tussle with my father.
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I was very young at that time.
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But now I feel, he must have felt something right about me getting married to him.
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Since I got married to him, I could persue this world of music.
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Because if I was married somewhere else, I could have never been able to persue this.
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The way he supported me through out, nobody else would have done it in the same way.
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One thing is for sure, men do not believe in women empowernment
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Alright! So, no matter how much we say that we are independent women
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But, are we really independent? No.
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Even though, there are so many women, who are tortured by men.
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Still we say we are independent women
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we are not actually independent.
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I have seen in our village areas that if a man says something has to be cooked, then it has to happen
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whatever they wish to eat, it has to be cooked
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We don't have such rules.
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I do whatever I want to do
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So this is one of the reasons.
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Even after being from such society, since I have been married to Dibakar Das baul
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everybody in our baul group knows that my fame is because of him.
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Becuse in many places he won't sing himself, rather made me sing
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On big platforms, if time was less for performance, say suppose only five minutes are there to perform
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he used to say," Rina you sing".
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By providing that space, he helped me to reach this position.
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I have my Guru Bhava Pagla, in Navadweep
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but, my husband is my real Guru who built my life this way.
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This i have to accept.
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I cannot deny this.
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I have to agree.
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that he is my guru.
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If it wasn't because of him, I would have never become Rina Das Baulina. Never would I have.
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The life is very long.
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When I used to go for performance at some place,
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so when I used to sleep, since I was very young he would stay awake by my side the whole night,
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he would only sleep after returing back home, he would never sleep there.
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There were not many people when we used to go for performances
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I am talking about the time almost thirty years back
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then everything used to be very different.
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Then we used to perform in villages. We were given single place for all the baul singers to sleep.
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There was room full of mattress where everybody would sleep side by side.
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I would occupy some corner to sleep, and my husband would sit by side whole night.
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We would then return early in the morning
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he would never sleep there
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He is my biggest blessing, he did a lot for me
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He would take me everywhere.
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He did a lot for me, and I was also adamant, that I have to do something.
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That's why it happened.
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But I had his constant support. He used to always say "you go and do whatever you want".
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This is in itself is big gift.
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if every girl gets such support at home, they can do anything.
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It is not necessary that everybody has to sing or do something similar
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everybody has some kind of talent
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but, our women cannot use that talent
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whether its power or talent, they are unable to use it.
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say for example, i went to perform in Murshidabad
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may be six months ago.
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I went to some workshop, I was invited there. Some women came
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I taught those 7-8 women, two songs.
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So while singing, I noticed one of them who was sitting beside me, was trying really hard to sing
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was writing down music while sitting beside me
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I thought, may be she is not stable, since she was behaving weirdly.
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she went back home at night
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then I told the rest about the lady that, she had been behaving weirdly and caused disturbance,
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so, they said do you know how educated she is.
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because of responsibilities of home, she could do nothing, that's why she behaves like this.
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she wanted to learn music and also wanted apply for job after education, but nobody allowed her to do so
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since her husband sings baul too.
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he said" if she succeeds then nobody will ever recognize me"
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After listening to this, I felt so bad, that next day when she came, I hugged her tightly
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that only because of her husband she couldn't do anything
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since both of them are of same profession, both of them sing baul
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I saw that, she sings well but she isn't stable
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She was repeatedly saying, "they don't teach me, they don't let me sing"
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I felt so bad that she has such beautiful voice but she isn't stable
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she was just saying, " I couln't do anything". There is just one life, right
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That day I felt, she could have achieved a lot, but she didn't have support
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Did you fall. Did you fall with the bike.
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Then?
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Did you fall with the bike? speak the truth
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then why are you limping? Is your knee aching
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Why are you limping?
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I have been carrying this that's why.
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okay
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I can't tell you anymore, husband has come
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Work! I have to cook breakfast.
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fry some bringal fritters.
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yes, absolutely right! I am going to fry some fritters. Come on prepare the batter.
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I need the dustbin to throw the paper cups. Whatever trash are there, bring and throw them.
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I am going to slice the bringals
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humming
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Did you bring it.